Posted on: June 28, 2011 12:23 am
Edited on: June 28, 2011 9:39 am

Idiots guide to the ATMD: Draft Version

Happy Drafting, don't screw it up...Wink

1. Don't trade a GOAT player, ever, doesn't matter what the scenario is. If you question who a GOAT player is, maybe you shouldn't be on the ATMD-Land ride quite yet.

2. Try hard to get an Elite Bigman in the first round and keep him.  What if you don't have a high enough pick, then trade to get one.  Players like Chamberlain, Jabbar, Russell, Hakeem and Shaq will dominate most other bigs.  The only way to combat not having one is having someone in the next tier and surrounding him with maybe a GOAT non-big to make up for it.  Larry Bird, Michael Jordan, Magic Johnson are good players to do that.

3. Don't trade out of the first round, those kinds of players win games.  Unless you have a late first rounder and can pick up another high second rounder that might of been picked there anyways.  Sometimes first rounders will drop into the second because someone is trigger happy on players that don't belong anywhere near there.  Like George Mikan, poor DJ.

4. Get players that can play some defense, and some serious defense.  Round 4-6 will have some studs, keep your picks in those rounds to get them.  Someone who has won a DPOY is a good choice, the more the better.  Someone who has been selected to many first team nba defense is also a good choice ( find the site basketball-reference.com if you need help ).

5. Learn who the "Black-List" of ATMD players are and avoid drafting them.  Some of the more knowlegable people know their worth, but unfortunately in ATMD-Land they will never live up to their true value. 

6. Understand what the value of draft picks mean.  A 2nd round pick, say pick number 18 compared to a 2nd round pick, say number 24 is worth a heckuva lot more than a pick swapped in the 5th round 6 picks away.  The immortal Jimmy Johnson had a good formula that he built a champion on.  Beware of swapping picks later just to move up a few.

7. Unless you are just obtaining talent, which can be dangerous, understand the system that a particular player is used to playing in.  Someone who playing their career in a slow down half court set is not going to gel with a player that played in an up tempo fast break offense.  Putting together "big names" doesn't translate into great teams.  Generally whoever your first pick is will determine the rest of your picks that you are building around them.

more to come later, Carry on.

Category: NBA
Tags: ATMD
Posted on: October 13, 2010 8:34 pm
Edited on: October 13, 2010 8:35 pm

ATMD-V Suggestion Box


Stuff in the box suggestions for next year.

Carry on...Cool

Category: NBA
Tags: ATMD
Posted on: September 8, 2010 10:47 am
Edited on: October 1, 2010 3:03 pm

ATMD-IV Tournament Home Page

That's right, it's a "Nugs Home Page" again.  Welcome.  First of all I would like to say that Kmvenne, WCF, BMu and the others who have taken roles in this contest have done a stellar job.  New rules, new ideas, and new methods make a contest better.  Keith has graciously passed the baton over to Nugs to handle the culmination of all of your hard work...THE TOURNAMENT !!!

General Notes:

1. All gameplans from here on out will only be pm'd to me, avoid any confusion or problems.  I will be posting the games myself.  May the Lord bless my posting abilities.

2. All past penalties will be on a deffered sentence, start with a clean slate.  BUT...very important, and those of you know who I am talking about, this is for you.  IF you bring up once anything about the past penalties to Keith, WCF or anyone else who bestowed them upon you they will come back three-fold.  Don't test me, and take this clean slate as a chance to have a better contest.  Starting some of you with a clean slate doesn't mean that you didn't deserve the penalty, remember that.  Thanks.

3. With 14 teams, the top 2 will receive a bye into the Quaterfinals where they will await the 6 winners carrying over from the Round of 14. Single elimination ala March Madness. The one change to this year's tourney will be an NFL style playoff as oppose to a specific bracket. After the first round, the 8 teams will be re-seeded with the 1 seed playing the lowest remaining team from Round one. And in the semi-s again, teams will matchup with the highest seed left playing the lowest seed left ultimately culminating in a championship match. ( Thanks WCF, took that from your blog )

Tournament Rosters.   Thanks to Brandon for doing that.


1. Gameplans will be due at high noon ( EST ) of your game.  I will post the games that night around 8ish ( EST ).  PM the gameplan to me with the title changed so that I can easily find it.  Each hour that your gameplan is late will result in a 1 point penalty.  Let's really see if we can have ZERO forfeits this year!

2. Matches will go 72 hours in length to the minute.  Winner has to have at least 9 points, but I don't see that being a problem.  If the game is tied then it will go into a 12 hour overtime period where the highest total after that wins.  If it is still tied than it's sudden death where the next vote wins. 

3. Gameplan Word Limits.  Round 1 will be set at 1,200 words, each round we will add another 100 words to the limit.  Going over the limit will result in penalties.  Just keep it under.  And please double check your minute distribution, thanks.

4. "No Smith Rule".  Please read this whole section, very important.  First and foremost this rule is not because I think Jakey or Brandon cheat in voting always for themselves.  It's to protect the contest from problems.  They are brothers, so no matter which way they vote they will be criticized, lose lose situation really.  So... Jakey will not vote in Brandons game, and Brandon will not vote in Jakey's game.  IF anyone brings up this rule and says it's unfair it's a 1 point penalty, just live with it.  Anyone who says that well this poster shouldn't vote in my games because he doesn't ever vote for me is also a 1 point penalty.  Don't even try it.  They came from the same womb so it's different.

5. Comments about someones agenda in their vote will not be tolerated and will result in a 1 point penalty.  No lists, no that guy never votes for me, no anything.  IF you have a problem with someones vote, simple.  PM your Judge in that game and he will address the situation if he hasn't done already.  Again, don't test this, let's have a good tournament.

Note: You are more than welcome, in fact encouraged to rebute the reasonings in someones vote.  IF someone says that player X doesn't shoot 3's well and you know he does, prove it.  IF someone says that player y can't play point guard and you know he can, prove it.  IF you can't tell the difference between the rule and what's encouraged, then don't say anything.  And saying that someone should get a penalty is not your job, leave that up to us.  Because if you test it, the penalty will be bestowed upon you.

6. No cross voting in the Semi-Final games.  The 2 participants in the one Semi-Final will not be voting in the other.  Again, it's not that I think someone will be picking their opponent, it's to protect the contest from anyone making comments.  It's a rule, just deal with it, thanks.

These rules are important, please review them and if something comes up I will add to them.  Again, it's about having a great final tournament, let's all work together.

NOTE: If you have problems with any of these rules I would suggest pm'ing me in the threads, public problems will be squashed quick.  Real quick, don't test it.

Final Four Game Rules:

Games will go for 4 days, start on Tuesday morning.  Gameplans will be due Monday night by 6pm EST.  Word limits go up again, make note of that.

Day 1 and 2 will be for voting.  BUT, all votes will be submitted to me VIA pm.  All votes are due by the end of day 2 for it to count.  Even posters in the other Final Four matchup are required to vote.  No one will see the votes during those two days except the Judges.  This way no one knows how the game is going during the voting period.  Contestants are encouraged to debate each others gameplans during this time.

Day 3 morning I will then post all the votes in that thread.  For the next two days the two contestants get to then rebute and refute the votes.  You think something is wrong, this is your chance to talk about it.  Any talk or hint about agenda or bias will result first in a warning then in a penalty.

During this time the Judges will get together via PM, discuss the votes, value each one and then they will be averaged out between the Judges.   End of Day 4 the score will be revealed and the winner will be chosen.


1. Judged the same way as in PP action ( I will assign the Judging ).  Solo Owners can get up to 3.0 value, Team Owners / Non-Participants can get up to a 1.5 value.  Questioning the score in your game publically to the Judge will result in a 1 point penalty.  We are doing this for you guys and for a better contest, show us respect, thanks.  Problems can be pm'd to any Judge.

2. Please make your summary statements matter.  No more "Team X pulled this out".  Making someone win the game sound like certain Posters Friday night activities is not what we're looking ofr.  Make it well thought out, give people WHY they win.  Don't just comment to each part, bash this, bash that, and then say "it's close, but Team Y wins".  Seriously, that's your reasonings?  Make it good, or else your vote will be valued low.

3. Once your out of the contest please keep voting.  There is no penalty, there is no forcing you to vote.  If you have spent all this time, get beat and then don't even give the respect to the remaining participants by continued voting then you need more than just a penalty.  Judges, policies and rules are in place to avoid the extreme "drama" that usually unfolds, so let's crown a champ and be proud of the result.  If you're planning on being in the contest next time, I would strongly suggest your keep up the participation...trust me you will be remembered, thanks.

4. The contestants have the right to question your votes, don't get all defensive about it.  If you're solid on your stance, just prove it.  If you don't want to get into it with the contestant, then stay away.  Part of this contest is selling your team, we all know that, so that continues even after your gameplans are up. 

Tournament Seeds:

1) Coast 2 Coast - Lakers2408/WC F
2) Good Ass Job - BNW
3) Black and Blue Wackadoo's - windycityjoe
4) The Flying McDutchmen - Skins
5) World's Greatest One Man Band - 3G
6) All Eyes On Us - Buc
7) The Diamond Cutters - Biggy aka Diaper
8) The Whole Fukcing Show - Kmvenne
9) Cain and Able - Cain
10) Who Wants Em - McGradykid
11) The Clutch Killers - Michigan Sports
12) Caucasian Sensations - LBJ
13) Sulphorous Nonentites - Blood
14) MMMMMM - Mighty Mouse

Tournament schedule:

Friday September 10th

Black and Blue Wackadoo's vs. 14) MMMMMM
   Result =Winner Joe
4) The Flying McDutchmen vs. 13) Sulphorous Nonentities
   Result = Winner Blood

Monday September 13th

5) WGOMB vs. 12) Caucasian Sensations
  Result = Winner 3G
6) All Eyes On Us vs. 11) The Clutch Killers
  Result = Winner Jakey

Friday September 17th

7) The Diamond Cutters vs. 10) Who Wants Em
   Result = Winner Brandon
8) The Whole Fukcing Show vs. 9) Cain And Able
    Result = Winner Keith ( Forfeit )

2nd Round

Monday, Sept. 20th
1) Coast 2 Coast - Lakers2408/WCF
13) Sulphorous Nonentites - Blood

   Result = Winner Blood

Thursday, Sept. 23rd
2) Good Ass Job - BNW
11) The Clutch Killers - Michigan Sports

   Result: Winner Jakey

Monday, Sept. 27th
3) Black and Blue Wackadoo's - windycityjoe
8) The Whole Fukcing Show


Thursday, Sept. 30th
5) World's Greatest One Man Band
7) The Diamond Cutters

Stay tuned...Cool

Category: NBA
Tags: ATMD
Posted on: April 20, 2010 11:19 pm
Edited on: May 17, 2010 10:23 pm

Nugs Supreme Voting Values

Now that I have Judged 2 different contests I need to revise my listings and give a better justification of your votes:

3.0 Rating ( Perfect Score )
You must really go above and beyond in your vote.  When it comes to gameplan accuracy and comments you will comment on the minute distribution and either quote box or comment on pretty much all of the gameplan.  Really giving a good reasoning to why you like or don't like a particular aspect.  Going out and suggesting how you would like certain aspects of the game to unfold.  Prove that you really know the players you comment on, and don't just pick a few of the players that everyone knows.  Take Basketball IQ of players fully into account.  Refrain from generalized comments and have zero bias ( very important ).  From now on this rating will be difficult to achieve.

2.50 - 2.75 Rating
Comment on the minute distribution, and give suggestions to how you'd do it different if you disagree.  Take the major aspects of the gameplan and directly comment on the strategies.  Taking several players and showing a true understanding of their historical value.  Avoid any major misunderstandings of the plans.  Give a really good final reasoning of why a team wins, not just that you like one plan better.  Again should be no sign of bias, and little generalized comments.

2.25 - 2.50 Rating
Hit the major aspects of the plan, still try to hit on a few players minutes and the impact it has.  Take a few players and prove that you understand their historical value.  Give a good grasp on the offensive sets.  Overall an above average vote, still want to see a really good final paragraph that shows your complete reasoning.  Suggestions should be made.

2.00 - 2.25 Rating
You can hit the only the major aspects of a vote, but you have to give in depth reasonings.  Try to give some suggestions, comment on players minutes, and why major players would be succesful.  Could be some generalized comments here, but not in the final reasoning of who would win.  Prove you know the value of the 2 main players of each team. 

1.50 - 2.00 Rating
Here's where we see a really good bullet point vote.  Just hit several points on the offense and a good generalized comment on the defense as a whole.  Still a final paragraph about why you picked the winner. 

1.00 - 1.50 Rating
This is a quick and nasty vote.  Hit about 5 total points on the whole contest.  Show that you at least read the gameplans, and a suggestion or two. 

0.75 Rating ( Minimum Vote )
Simple, 3 reasons why a team wins

I will be referring back to this ranking from now on when you receive a particular vote. Please don't take a vote in the first two games and come back to this list.  Neither of those games were decided by values and it was a barometer for Judging.  This should help future contests, let's try to keep those vote counts up.
Category: NBA
Tags: ATMD
Posted on: April 21, 2009 11:58 am
Edited on: June 28, 2009 9:11 pm

ATMD-09: Pool Play 1 Home Page

Welcome to the ATMD, here is where everyone can check into for Pool Play Round 1 Standings, Schedule and News:

Current Standings:

North Division aka "Drugs"

3-0  [36-28/56.2%] A4: axesstarr ( The Ten Acid Deez )
2-1  [45-15/75%]    B1: wildcatsfan1 ( You Still Really Don't Want It With Us )
1-2  [19-42/31.1%] C3: BucFan40 ( Josh Heytvelt's Shroom and Swish )
0-3  [24-39/38%]    D1: Harst ( Roanoke Dimpstaffs )

South Division aka "Egos"

3-0  [37-2/94.8%]   A2: Team of windy city joe & BNW2 ( Bad News Joe )
2-1  [18-27/40%]    B4: blood_baller ( The Sulphurous Nonentities )
1-2  [12-22/35.2%] C2: GoCavs33 ( champinoship crew )
0-3  [0-0/n/a]         D4: Zagfan62 ( PatBurke8JoMama ) previously HurricaneDij39

East Division aka "Everyone vs Jakey (self explanatory)"

3-0  [50-6/89.2%]   A3: ChrisperJ10 ( Chrisper & Friends )
2-1  [26-21/55.3%] B3: Team of The Big B & Michigan Sports ( Revenge of the Smith )
1-2  [17-30/36.1%] C1: Team of MrRedSoxBaller & BMu_1963 ( Ripnu Ginobiltons )
0-3  [0-20/0%]       D3: TheSkins8 ( The Bus Drivers ) previously North Harbour

West Division aka "Old as Dirt"

3-0  [30-0/100%]    A1: Nuggets_SOS ( The Legends )
2-1  [25-13/65.7%]  B2: kmvenne ( Dishing and Swishing )
1-2  [8-22/26.6%]   C4: Team of  lakers2408 & nate75 ( Death by Dunk )
0-3  [1-137.1%]      D2: mcgradykid134 ( Wildcats Dad )

Current Schedule:

Monday, 5/11/09 ( Games are now up, click the link to go there and vote ): 

Thursday, 5/14/09: 

Monday, 5/18/09: 


Thursday, 5/28/09:

2nd Group Monday, 6/01/09: 

Thursday, 6/04/09: 

Monday, 6/08/09:

Thursday, 6/11/09: 

3rd Group Monday, 6/15/09:

Thursday, 6/18/09: 

Monday, 6/22/09:

Thursday, 6/25/09:

Current News and Notes:

*Draft is now complete, go to that thread for the final recaps

* 3rd Annual All Time Mock Draft: Official Rosters = Listing of everyones roster, verifty if it's correct.

* Game between Hurricane and tfitz/gocavs resulted in a double forfeit, neither team submitted their gameplan to The Big B in time and they both receive a loss with no votes for or against.  It should be noted that the second no submittal could result in removal from the league.  PLEASE check the Axe vs. Harst game for details on the GoCavs vs. Hurricane and NH vs. Smith Brothers games, thanks.

*GoCavs is the sole owner of the CC, tfitz is no longer in this competition.  All responsibility is now solely on GoCavs and his votes will start counting as 2 points.

*The Skins 8 has taken over for North Harbour who is now longer able to spend time on his team.

*Hurricanes team is available for someone to take over, check in with BigB, WCF or Nugs if you're interested.

FINAL Voting Tally:

Team Poster ( Set 1 ) - ( Set 2 ) - ( Set 3 ) 

66% YSD wildcatsfan1 ( RD,BNJ,CC,CAF ) = 4/5 ( JHS,CC,CAF,RG ) 4/6 (JHS,CAF) = 2/4
33% TAD
axesstarr ( YSD,BNJ,CAF,TL ) = 4/5 ( RD ) = 1/6 (n/a) = 0/4
80% RD
  Harst ( YSD,BNJ,CC,TL ) = 4/5 ( TAD,CC,CAF,ROS ) = 4/6 (JHS,CC,CAF,DAS) = 4/4
66% JHS
BucFan40 ( RD,BNJ,CAF,TL ) = 4/5 ( TAD,SN,CAF,RG,TL,DAS ) = 6/6 (n/a) = 0/4

93% BNJ
windy city joe ( TAD,YSD,CAF,TL ) = 4/5 ( TAD,JHS,SN,CAF,RG,TL,DAS ) = 7/7 (TAD,RD,CAF) = 3/4
BNW2 ( RD,YSD,CC,CAF,TL ) = 5/5 ( YSD,RD,SN,CAF,ROS,DAS,TL ) = 7/7 (TAD,RD,CAF,DAS) = 4/4
53% CC
  GoCavs33 ( YSD ) = 1/5 ( YSD,JHS,CAF,ROS ) = 4/6 (TAD,YSD,ROS) = 3/4
100% SN
  blood_baller ( TAD,YSD,CC,CAF,TL ) = 5/5 ( YSD,RD,CAF,ROS,TL,DAS ) = 6/6 (JHS,YSD,BNJ,ROS,DAS) = 5/5
26% PB8
 Zagfan62 ( TAD,CC ) = 2/5 ( TL,DAS ) = 2/6 (n/a) = 0/4

28% CAF
ChrisperJ10 ( TAD ) = 1/5 ( YSD,CC,ROS ) = 3/6 (n/a,waivedBNJvCC) = 0/3
78% ROS
The Big B ( RD,YSD,BNJ,PB8,CAF ) = 5/6 ( TAD,RD,CC,CAF,TL,DAS ) = 6/6 (TAD,YSD,BNJ,DAS) = 4/4
Michigan Sports ( TAD,YSD,CAF ) = 3/6 ( TAD,RD,CC,WD ) = 4/6 (TAD,YSD,BNJ) = 3/4
56% RG
  BMu_1963 ( RD,YSD,BNJ,TL ) = 4/5 ( DAS ) = 1/6 (YSD,BNJ,CAF,DAS) = 4/5
100% TBD TheSkins8 (CAF,DAS ) = 2/2

45% DBD lakers2408 ( TAD,CAF ) = 2/6 ( SN,CAF,RG,DAS ) = 4/6 (CAF) = 1/4
nate75 ( RD,CAF,TL ) = 3/6 ( JHS,SN,ROS ) = 3/6 (YSD,BNJ) = 2/4
87% TL
  Nuggets_SOS ( TAD,YSD,BNJ,CAF ) = 4/5 ( YS,RD,SN,CAF,ROS,DAS ) = 6/6 (YSD,BNJ,CAF.DAS) = 4/5
100% DAS
kmvenne ( RD,YSD,BNJ,CC,RG ) = 5/5 ( TAD,JHS,SN,CAF,ROS,TL ) = 6/6 (YAD,YSD,BNJ,CAF) = 4/4
52% WD
  mcgradykid134 ( TAD,YSD,BNJ,CC ) = 4/6 ( TAD,JHS,CC ) = 3/6 (TAD,YSD) = 2/5

PB8 HurricaneDij39 ( RD,YSD,BNJ,CAF,TL ) = 5/5 ( CAF,TL,DAS ) = 3/7 (n/a) = 0/3
RG  MrRedSoxBaller ( RD,YSD,BNJ,CC ) = 4/5 ( TAD,JHS,SN,DAS ) = 4/6 (TAD) = 1/4
GP  North Harbour ( YSD ) = 1/6 (n/a) = 0/6 (n/a) = 0/3
WD  g8trfan_1 ( TAD ) = 1/6 ( n/a ) = 0/3

RULE: Getting a bonus if you vote more often during the matches, if you are part of a team then the total votes would get averaged between the two Posters ( we will round down ).  For Transaction Periods the bonus structure will be the following ( note that we included the percentages because if a game is forfeited it will not count towards the total ):
    *Vote on (0-25%) of the Games - 1 Trade / 2 Players ( Possible expulsion, reviewed by BOD )
    *Vote on (26-50%) of the Games - 1 Trade / 3 Players
    *Vote on (51-75%) of the Games - 2 Trades / 5 Players
    *Vote on (76-99%) of the Games - 3 Trades / 6 Players
    *Vote on (100%) of the Games - 4 Trades / 7 Players

NOTE: The tally for the votes will be done after each set of 2 games is complete.

Category: NBA
Tags: ATMD
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