Did this last year on here so keeping the tradition going.  Although I have done it every year, as probably most people have.  Usually takes a few years to iron out, so I can come back and check once we get there.  On record for saying I don't understand many of the trades and wouldn't of done them, but I will keep with that to make it easy and just repick what was picked with each position.

Rd2-36:  Took Derek Wolfe, I would of taken Stephen Hill since Fleener was off the board.  Knowing the nice DT depth I wouldn't of gone with a pick there.  Honestly would of liked to see a move in the first to get Dre Kirkpatrick, or even David DeCastro, but nope.

Rd2-57: Took Brock Osweiler, I would of taken Derek Wolfe here, and if he was taken rather than one of the other four D-Linemen in Branch, Worthy, Still or Reyes I would of been ok with them as well.  Think Brandon Thompson would of been ok here to, boy he dropped though.

Rd3-67: Took Ronnie Hillman, and if EFX just had to pick a QB take Nick Foles.  But if it were up to purely me, this is where Thompson lands.  Give us two nice options for D-Line.

Rd4-101: Took Omar Bolden, I would like to of thought Hillman lasts here with all the picks taken in between and then you have a great change of pace back after 3 players who could work their way into the starting lineup.   Lamar Miller went a few picks prior who would of been great, but can't have him and maybe have Hillman anyways.  If we dont have a second D-Linemen, take Jared Krick.

Rd4-108: Took Phillip Blake, and I might be ok with this pick.  If not, Bobby Massie there.  Get best O-Lineman.

Rd5-137: Took Malik Jackson, but I was hoping for George Iloka with our current choices at S.

Rd6-188: Took Danny Travathan, and not bad after reading up on him, keep with EFX on that one.

So with the picks as they had to be, since I can't trade back, here's my draft:
Hill
Wolfe
Thompson
Hillman
Massie
Iloka
Travathan

Go Broncos

Everything your need for your ATMD-ness is here, enjoy.  Let's all have a great contest, and good luck.

Standings for PP2

Best:

1-0 ( 5-2/0.71 ) 3-1 ( 26-12 / 0.68 )    3 Blood
1-0 ( 5-4/0.55 ) 3-1 ( 33-13 / 0.72 )    1 BB
0-1 ( 4-5/0.44 ) 3-1 ( 23-11 / 0.71 )   2 Nugs
0-1 ( 2-5/0.28 ) 3-1 ( 27-11 / 0.66 )   4 KMV/Go

Note: If you are in the "Best" submit your gameplan into SumTNews

East:

2-0 ( 11-1/0.92 ) 3-1 ( 26-18 / 0.59 )    5 WCJ
0-1 ( 1-5/0.17 ) 2-2 ( 19-18 / 0.51 )    7 NH
0-1 ( 0-5/0.00 ) 2-2 ( 19-20 / 0.49 )    9 Skins
1-0 ( 5-0/1.00 ) 1-3 ( 27-23 / 0.54 )    11 LBJ / tfitz
0-1 ( 0-6/0.00 ) 0-4 ( 07-24 / 0.23 )    13 wlkwlk3


Note: If you are in the "East" submit your gameplan into Nugs.

West:

1-0 ( 5-0/1.00 ) 2-2 ( 21-21 / 0.50 )    8 MS
1-0 ( 5-0/1.00 ) 2-2 ( 16-21 / 0.43 )    10 MM
0-0 ( / ) 0-4 ( 05-40 / 0.11 )     14 BucFan
0-1 ( 0-5/0.00 ) 3-1 ( 23-16 / 0.59 )    6 Cain
0-1 ( 0-5/0.00 ) 1-3 ( 10-34 / 0.23)     12 SumT

Note: If you are in the "West" submit your gameplan into Blood.

Participants = BB, Blood, MS, Joe, Skins, SumT, wlkwlk, LBJ/tftiz, Nugs, Cain, NH, MM, BucFan, Keith/GoH

NOTE: Your records will be combined for seeding games, both PP1 and PP2.

Schedule for PP2:

Monday, Sept 12
  5 Joe vs 7 NH  Joe wins 5-1
     Missed Votes: Blood, MS, SumT, Cain, MM, Keith/GoH
     Joe: tftiz-1/2, Nugs, Mr. Perry, BB, Wlk, lbj-1/2
     NH: BF
  3 Blood vs 4 Kmv/GoH  Blood wins 5-2
     Missed Votes: BB, Nugs, Cain, NH, MM, 
     Blood: SumT, Joe, tfitz, Mr. Perry, BF
     Kmv/GoH: wlkwlk, Jake

Thursday, Sept 15
  6 Cain vs 8 MS  MS wins 5-0
     Missed Voters: Blood, Skins, SumT, NH, MM, BucFan, Keith/GoH
     Cain:
     MS: Joe, wlk, BB, tftiz, Nugs
  10 MM vs 12 SumT MM wins 5-0
     Missed Voters BB, Blood, Mr. Perry,  LBJ/tftiz, Cain, NH, Keith/GoH
     MM: Nugs, Joe, MS, BF, wlkwlk
     SumT:

Monday, Sept 19
  1 BB vs 2 Nugs  BB wins 5-4
     Voters left: Mr. Perry, Cain, Keith/GoH
     BB: BucFan, tfitz, MM, NH, MS
     Nugs: Joe, wlk, SumT, Blood
  9 L2408 vs 11 LBJ/tftiz  LBJ/tfitz win via forfeit
     Voters: BB, Blood, MS, SumT, wlkwlk, Nugs, Cain, NH, MM, BucFan, Keith/GoH
     L24:
     tftiz/LBJ: Joe

Thursday, Sept 22
  5 Joe vs 13 wlkwlk   Joe wins 6-0
     Voters: Blood, MS, Mr. Perry, LBJ/tftiz, Cain, NH, BucFan, Keith/GoH
     Joe: tfitz, Nugs, SumT, NH, MM, BB
     wlkwlk:
  6 Cain vs 14 Titans/BF  pending


Monday, Oct 3
  7 NH vs 9 Skins
  8 MS vs 10 MM

Thursday, Oct 6
  2 Nugs vs 4 Kmv/GoH
  1 BB vs 3 Blood

Monday, Oct 10
  11 LBJ/tftiz vs 13 wlkwlk
  12 SumT vs 14 Titans/BF

West and East combine into one division, based on records everyone but 1-4 gets reseeded:

Thursday, Oct 14
  5th Seed vs 6th Seed
  7th Seed vs 8th Seed

Monday, Oct 17 ( goes all week )
  9th Seed vs 10th Seed
  11th Seed vs 12th Seed
  13th Seed vs 14th Seed

Monday, Oct 21
  1 BB vs 4 Kmv/GoH
  2 Nugs vs 3 Blood

Trading Period number 2

then

Tournament Begins Week of Oct. 28th

Week 1:
  1st and 2nd Seeds have bye
  3rd Seed vs 14th Seed
  4th Seed vs 13th Seed
  5th Seed vs 12th Seed
  6th Seed vs 11th Seed
  7th Seed vs 10th Seed
  8th Seed vs 9th Seed

Round 2:
  1st Seed vs Winner of 8v9
  2nd Seed vs Winner of 7v10
  3v14 winner vs 6v11 winner
  4v13 winner vs 5v12 winner

Round 3:
  1/8/9 vs 4/13/5/12
  2/7/10 vs 3/14/6/11

Championship Game

PP1 Standings:

East                                        

3-1 ( 33-13 / 0.72 )    1 BB ( 1st )   
3-1 ( 26-12 / 0.68 )    7 Blood ( 3rd )
3-1 ( 26-18 / 0.590 )   10 WCJ ( 5th )
2-2 ( 21-21 / 0.50 )    12 MS ( 8th )
2-2 ( 19-20 / 0.49 )    5 L2408 ( 9th )
1-3 ( 10-34 / 0.23)      3 SumT ( 12th )
0-4 ( 7-24 / 0.23 )      14 wlkwlk3 ( 13th )                                         

NOTE: IF you are in the EAST your gameplans need to be submitted to Nugs.

West         

3-1 ( 23-11 / 0.71 )   8 Nugs ( 2nd )
3-1 ( 27-11 / 0.66 )   13 KMV/Go ( 4th )
3-1 ( 23-16 / 0.589 )    11 Cain ( 6th )
2-2 ( 19-18 / 0.51 )   9 NH ( 7th )
2-2 ( 16-21 / 0.43 )    6 MM ( 10th )
1-3 ( 27-23 / 0.54 )    2 LBJ / tfitz ( 11th )
0-4 ( 5-40 / 0.11 )     4 Titans ( 14th )


NOTE: IF you are in the WEST your gameplans need to be submitted to Blood.


Important Notes:

Minimum score to win a contest is a combined 6 points for the winner, unless Judge over rules after extension.

Tie Breakding Rule for Placement into Next Divisions:
  1. Overall Win loss record
  2. IF 2 teams have equal records, then the winner of the head to head matchup has the higher seed.
  3. If teams did not play head to head, overall percentage of votes for your team to get the higher seed. 

* = Current teams in the top four to move into the "Best" Division.

Winning your division DOES NOT ensure a top 4 spot, it will be spread through both divisions.

Participants = BB, Blood, MS, Joe, Mr. Perry, SumT/Jaysta, wlkwlk, LBJ/tftiz, Nugs, Cain, NH, MM, Titans, Keith/GoH

PP1 Schedule:

Note: Click on any of the games to get linked to the match and vote.

Monday, July 18th
  1 BB vs 3 Jaysta BB won 18-0
     Missed votes = No Team Owners ( WCF, Chrisper )
     BB = Blood, MS, Joe, Mr. Perry, Jaysta, wlkwlk, LBJ/tftiz, Nugs, Cain, NH, MM, Titans, Keith ( BNW, Cliff ) Zags
     Jaysta = none
  2 LBJ/tftiz vs 4 Titans LBJ/tfitz won 16-1
     Missed votes = No Team Owners ( Cliff, BNW )
     LBJ/tfitz = BB, Blood, MS, Joe, Mr. Perry, Jaysta, wlkwlk, Nugs, NH, MM, GoH ( Chrisper, WCF ) Zags
     Titans = Cain

Thursday, July 21st
  5 L2408 vs 7 Blood Blood won 8-4
     Missed votes = Jaysta, MS, Titans, Cain ( BNW, Cliff, WCF )
     L2408 = BB, wlkwlk, tftiz, , MM
     Blood = Joe, Nugs, NH, GoH ( Chrisper ) SumT, Zags
  6 MM vs 8 Nugs Nugs won 7-3
     Missed votes = Jaysta, wlkwlk, Titans, Cain ( BNW, Cliff, WCF, Chrisper )
     MM = MS, Mr. Perry, Skins
     Nugs = BB, Blood, Joe, LBJ, NH, Keith, SumT

Monday, July 25th
  10 WCJ vs 12 MS MS won 11-8
     Missed votes from MM, Nugs, ( Chrisper )
     Joe = Jaysta, GoH ( BNW, Cliff, WCF )
     MS = BB, Blood, Mr. Perry, Jaysta, wlkwlk, tftiz, Cain, NH, Titans, Zags, VEV
  9 NH vs 11 Cain  Cain won 7-6
     Missed votes from Titans, MM ( BNW, Cliff, Chrisper )
     NH = BB, Blood, Jaysta, wlkwlk, LBJ, SumT
     Cain = MS, Joe, Mr. Perry, Nugs, Keith, ( WCF )

Thursday, July 28th
  1 BB vs 14 wlkwlk3 BB won 7-1
    Missed votes from Blood, MS, Cain, NH ( BNW, Cliff, WCF, Chrisper )
     BB = Joe, Mr. Perry, Jaysta, tftiz, MM, Titans, Keith
     wlkwlk = Nugs
  2 LBJ/tfitz vs 13 KMV/Go KMV/Go won 7-4
    Missed votes from BB, Blood, Cain, Titans ( BNW, Cliff, Chrisper )
    LBJ/tfitz = Jaysta, wlkwlk, ( WCF )
    Ketih = MS, Joe, Mr. Perry, Nugs, NH, MM, Zags

Monday, Aug. 1st
  3 Jaysta vs 5 L2408 L2408 won 6-4
     Missed votes from LBJ/tftiz, Cain, NH, Titans, ( BNW, Cliff, Chrisper )
     L2408 = BB, Blood, Joe, wlkwlk, Nugs, GoH
     Jaysta = MS, MM, ( WCF )
  4 Titans vs 6 MM  MM won 6-3
     Missed votes from Blood, LBJ/tftiz, NH ( BNW, Cliff, WCF, Chrisper )
     Titans = Mr. Perry, Jaysta, wlkwlk, 
     MM = BB, MS, Joe, Nugs, Cain, Keith

Thursday, Aug. 4th
  7 Blood vs 10 WCJ    Joe won 7-3
     Missed Votes = NH, Titans ( BNW, Cliff, WCF, Chrisper )
     Blood = tftiz, Nugs, GoH
     Joe = BB, MS, Mr. Perry, Jaysta, wlkwlk, Cain, MM
  8 Nugs vs 9 NH NH won 7-4
    Missed Votes = Blood, MM, Titans ( BNW, Cliff, Chrisper )
    Nugs = Joe, Mr. Perry, wlkwlk, Cain,
    NH = BB, MS, Jaysta, tftiz, Keith ( WCF )

Monday, Aug. 8th
  12 MS vs 14 wlkwlk3  MS wins 6-1
     Missed votes = Jaysta, Nugs, Cain, NH, Titans, ( All Judges )
     MS = BB, Blood, Joe, Mr. Perry, MM, GoH
     wlkwlk = tftiz
  11 Cain vs 13 KMV/Go  Cain wins 7-2
     Missed votes = Jaysta, LBJ/tftiz, NH, MM, Titans ( BNW, Cliff, Chrisper )
     Cain = MS, Joe, Mr. Perry, wlkwlk, Nugs ( WCF )
     KMV/Go = BB, Blood 

Thursday, Aug. 11th
  1 BB vs 5 L2408  Mr. Perry wins 9-2
     Missed Votes = Blood, Jaysta, Cain, Keith/GoH ( BNW, Cliff, Chrisper )
     BB = MS, Titans
     L2408 = Joe, wlkwlk, tftiz, Nugs, NH, MM ( WCF ) Axesstar
  2 LBJ/tfitz vs 6 MM  Mighty wins 6-5
     Missed Votes = Jaysta, Cain, NH ( BNW, Cliff, Chrisper )
     LBJ/tftiz = BB, Nugs, Titans, wlkwlk, MS
     MM = Blood, Joe, Mr. Perry, GoH ( WCF )

Monday, Aug. 15th
  3 Jaysta vs 7 Blood Blood won 9-0
     Missed Votes = MS, LBJ/tftiz, NH, Titans, Keith/GoH
     Jaysta = none
     Blood = BB, Joe, Mr. Perry, wlkwlk, Nugs, Cain, MM ( Judge WCF )
  4 Titans vs 8 Nugs  Nugs won 12-1
    Missed Votes =MM, Keith/GoH
    Titans = MS
    Nugs = BB, Blood, Joe, Mr. Perry, Jaysta, wlkwlk, tfitz, Cain, NH ( Judge WCF ) Skins

Thursday, Aug. 18th
  10 WCJ vs 14 wlkwlk3 Joe won 5-4
     Missed Votes: NH, MM, Titans, ( All Judges )
     Joe: Blood, Jaysta, Nugs, Cain, Keith
     wlkwlk: BB, tfitz, Mr. Perry, MS
  9 NH vs 13 KMV/Go  KMV/Go get the forfeit win 6-0

Monday, Aug. 22nd
  1 BB vs 12 MS BB wins 6-3
     Missed Votes: Blood, NH, MM,
     Brandon: Joe, SumT, wlkwlk, tfitz, Nugs, Titans
     Jake: Keith, Mr. Perry, Cain
  2 LBJ/tftiz vs 11 Cain Cain wins 9-2
     Missed Votes: wlkwlk, NH, MM,
     LBJ/tfitz: MS, Joe
     Cain: BB, Blood, Mr. Perry, SumT, Nugs, Titans, GoH ( Judge WCF )

Thursday, Aug. 25th
  3 Jaysta SumT vs 14 wlkwlk3  SumT wins 6-1
     Missed Votes: BB, Cain, MM, Titans, Keith/GoH
     SumT: Blood, MS, Mr Perry, tfitz, Nugs, NH
     wlkwlk: joe
  4 Titans vs 13 KMV/Go KMV/Go get the forfeit win 6-0

Monday, Aug. 29th
  5 L2408 vs 10 WCJ  Joe wins 6-0
     Missed Votes: Blood, MS, SumT, wlkwlk, Cain, Titans
     L24:
     Joe: Nugs, tftiz, NH, BB, MM, GoH
  6 MM vs 9 NH  NH wins 6-1
     Missed Votes: Blood, Mr. Perry, SumT, Nugs, Titans,
     MM: wlk
     NH: tfitz, BB, MS, Cain, Keith, Joe

Thursday, Sept. 1st
  7 Blood vs 12 MS  Blood wins 6-1
     Missed Votes: BB, LBJ/tftiz, Cain, MM, Keith/GoH
     Blood: Joe, SumT, BucFan, NH, Nugs, Mr. Perry
     MS: wlk
  8 Nugs vs 11 Cain  Nugs wins 6-0
     Missed Votes: Blood, MS, SumT/Jaysta, LBJ/tftiz, MM, Keith/GoH
     Nugs: Joe, wlk, NH, BB, BF. Mr. Perry
     Cain:

Trade Thread is up and running, go there and wheel and deal.

Pool Play 2 ( Everyone realigns into 3 divisions, Best (top 4), East, West )

Best:

1st Seed plays: 2nd seed, 3rd seed, 4th seed
2nd Seed plays: 1st seed, 3rd seed, 4th seed
3rd Seed plays: 1st seed, 2nd seed, 4th seed
4th Seed plays: 1st seed, 2nd seed, 3rd seed

East:
5th Seed plays: 7th seed, 13th seed
7th Seed plays: 5th seed, 9th seed
9th Seed plays: 7th seed, 11th seed
11th Seed plays: 9th seed, 13th seed
13th Seed plays: 5th seed, 11th seed

West:
6th Seed plays: 8th seed, 14th seed
8th Seed plays: 6th seed, 10th seed
10th Seed plays: 8th seed, 12th seed
12th Seed plays: 10th seed, 14th seed
14th Seed plays: 6th seed, 12th seed
For 3rd game, the East and West combine to form one 10 team division, call it the Least:
14th vs 13th, 12th vs 11th, 10th vs 9th, 8th vs 7th, 6th vs 5th

Tournament

Wk 1: Top 2 seeds bye, then 3vs14, 4vs13, 5vs12, 6vs11, 7vs10, 8vs9
Wk 2: 1vs lowest, 2 vs next lowest, then breakdown
Wk 3: Final Four
Wk 4: Championship game

Happy Drafting, don't screw it up...

1. Don't trade a GOAT player, ever, doesn't matter what the scenario is. If you question who a GOAT player is, maybe you shouldn't be on the ATMD-Land ride quite yet.

2. Try hard to get an Elite Bigman in the first round and keep him.  What if you don't have a high enough pick, then trade to get one.  Players like Chamberlain, Jabbar, Russell, Hakeem and Shaq will dominate most other bigs.  The only way to combat not having one is having someone in the next tier and surrounding him with maybe a GOAT non-big to make up for it.  Larry Bird, Michael Jordan, Magic Johnson are good players to do that.

3. Don't trade out of the first round, those kinds of players win games.  Unless you have a late first rounder and can pick up another high second rounder that might of been picked there anyways.  Sometimes first rounders will drop into the second because someone is trigger happy on players that don't belong anywhere near there.  Like George Mikan, poor DJ.

4. Get players that can play some defense, and some serious defense.  Round 4-6 will have some studs, keep your picks in those rounds to get them.  Someone who has won a DPOY is a good choice, the more the better.  Someone who has been selected to many first team nba defense is also a good choice ( find the site basketball-reference.com if you need help ).

5. Learn who the "Black-List" of ATMD players are and avoid drafting them.  Some of the more knowlegable people know their worth, but unfortunately in ATMD-Land they will never live up to their true value. 

6. Understand what the value of draft picks mean.  A 2nd round pick, say pick number 18 compared to a 2nd round pick, say number 24 is worth a heckuva lot more than a pick swapped in the 5th round 6 picks away.  The immortal Jimmy Johnson had a good formula that he built a champion on.  Beware of swapping picks later just to move up a few.

7. Unless you are just obtaining talent, which can be dangerous, understand the system that a particular player is used to playing in.  Someone who playing their career in a slow down half court set is not going to gel with a player that played in an up tempo fast break offense.  Putting together "big names" doesn't translate into great teams.  Generally whoever your first pick is will determine the rest of your picks that you are building around them.

more to come later, Carry on.

How I would of made the picks.  Everyone does this to see how they would of changed their team, come back later and see how I would of done with this years draft class.

Round 1 ( 2nd overall ): Von Miller OLB Texas A&M
Round 2 ( 46th overall ): DaQuan Bowers DE Auburn
Round 2 ( 47th overall ): Stephen Paea DT Oregon State
Round 3 ( 67th overall ): Akeem Dent ILB Georgia
Round 4 ( 108th overall ): Casey Matthews ILB Oregon
Round 4 ( 129th overall ): Julius Thomas TE Portland State
Round 6 ( 189th overall ): Kieth Williams OG Nebraska
Round 7 ( 204th overall ): Derek Newton OT Arkansas State
Round 7 ( 247th overall ): Tommie Campbell FS California PA

Have to get defense early, and even thought Dareus would of been nice someone like Miller should be great to work with.  Plus two good D-Lineman are on the bard with 2nd rounders.  Something about Dent I think is going to translate well and between him and Matthews there should be a solid starer alongside Miller.  Knew Thomas was going to be picked, good risk / reward there.  Then go after the O-Linemen we need. 

Once football starts we'll see how they do, different teams and different situations are not the Denver situation but we've had some horredous drafts around here.  Hope that Elway and Co. is right and I am wrong.

NBA is too hard to watch, what a joke.

Enjoy

What I put in WCF's contest, just putting it here, with extending it out for fun.

Round One:

Bulls win in 4
Magic win in 5
Celtics win in 7
Heat win in 4

Spurs win in 5
Lakers win in 4
Mavericks win in 6
Thunder win in 7   Nuggets in 7, I know, changed it here.

Bonus:

1. Kevin Durant
2. Boston Celtics
3. Oklahoma City Thunder

Finals Bonus:

Miami Heat over the Los Angeles Lakers in 6
Finals MVP: LeBron James

Finals Tie-Breakers:

Total Points is 1122
Total Free Throws- 222

Round 2:

Bulls win in 6
Heat win in 7

Nuggets win in 6
Lakers win in 5

Conf. Finals:

Lakers win in 6
Heat win in 7

Simple.

Stuff in the box suggestions for next year.

Carry on...

Attention ATMD Participants

What you may read might not be what you want to hear, and I am sorry for that.  But with the voting turnout being pathetic to say the least this current round and it's bound to only get worse it's time to put my "Contingency" plan into effect that I have been working on behind the scenes since the first game in this 2nd Round of Playoff action.  I came back to make the playoffs void of all agendas and bias.  Now as a Judge I can lower scores, I can call out certain voters but when we're down to about 5 real voters right now it's going to be the few that select a winner.  And I didn't want to put this into effect but drastic times call for drastic measures.  Again I apologize for not coming up with this before the playoffs even started but I guess I was being to much of an optimist to think that enough voters would remain.  And I couldn't just penalize people and dangle the next years ATMD list in front of them.  So, if you're still with me here's the "Contingency Plan" that I have come up with:

Nugs Bowl New Rules:

1. There will be a 4-panel non-participant, Judging Panel that will be the sole decision making method of picking the winners.  The panel consists of Myself, GoHornets, BMu, ChiTownCliff.

2. This panel does not give a vote like you've seen before broken down.  They all pm to me their decision.

3. The winners are not revealed until the round is completely over.

4. Since I could not get a fifth member on the panel in case of a tie, my vote will be counted as the tie-breaker.

Ok, let that sit for a moment, it's a lot to digest, I know. 

The rest of the contest stays the same.  Get gameplans into me noon before the night of the game.  Word limits, and so on.  But no longer do any of you have to vote.  Now, if you wish to come in and bash a team, feel free.  If you wish to attack someones gameplan tactic, no holds barred.  Doesn't matter.

This next part will be hurtfull to some of you, you either take the whole part or you are welcome to walk.  No suggestions, no changes, sorry.

Since I put this into effect during the first game of this 2nd Round I have had this panel Vote since then.  Some of you voiced concerns about bias, and agendas.  Well, I can assure you that this panel of 4 doesn't care which one of you wins, and picked the winner of these games trully based on the plans you put forth.  No more jockying participants to get their vote.  And why is this hurtfull to some of you, because this panel may of disagreed with the game that you thought you won.  And I will be revealing the matchups of the next round tomorrow in the current game that is up.  It's different than what you think it is based on the participant votes in the games.

Nugs Bowl, it is now what it is.  It will stay this way until we get a winner.  We have 4 people who know quite a bit about the history of basketball doing this for you.  If you don't trust us, then walk.  If you have a problem with a single part of this, then sorry, walk.  It's how it has to be, and it's how it will be with or without you.

If you wish to take on the contest the way it's been, I understand, the 4 Judges will wish you all the luck and that's the end of the line for us.

If you need to think about if you wish to be part of it, that's fine.  I am posting this now and then probably won't be back until either late tonight or tomorrow morning.  This contest is strong, this contest will be void of agendas, and this contest will pick a trully great winner that will be proud, no matter what anyone thinks of that person. 

Learn it, live it, and deal with it....Carry on...